THIS POST HAS BEEN FLAIRED AS UNAVAILABLE AND WILL BE LEFT HERE JUST AS A REFERENCE. ALL 15 DIFFERENT ORDERS YOU CAN SEE HERE WERE DELIVERED AND POSITIVE FEEDBACK GIVEN. ABOUT 15% OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST HAVE BEEN SOLD. I WILL MAKE ANOTHER POST IN THE FUTURE WITH AN UPDATED LIST. CHEERS! TL;DR: you can find the link for the decks and accessories list (and another link for a way less nicely formatted list of 100+ books about magic, sleight of hand and card tricks) at the end of this post. Feel free to rush there, get the decks names (or just books names and author in case you are also/only getting books) and respective items conditions (M, A, B or C - more on that later) and create a top-level comment with your list of wishes. Example: Mint 2 Set (Blueberry, Cucumber, Frost, Foiled Frost) (M) Dynasty Jade Green (A) Smoke and Mirros V6 Rouge (M) Seasons Set (Verana, Inverno)(A) The Amazing Miracles of Shigeo Takagi - Richard Kaufman After that, YOU MUST READ THE WHOLE POST. It is crucial you read the post and understand that, if you still want to go ahead with negotiations, you agree with the conditions I wrote. It is extremely important we are on the same page regarding this. I am here to try to sell cards, not to create an unnecessary mess because of miscommunication. It is absolutely fine if you don't agree with some condition, but all of this needs to be worked out before we proceed to payment stage. I hope no one minds too much me saying "hey, that information was available on the post" :) Note 1: DO NOT edit your top-level comment,
if you want to add decks or subtract decks from your list answer to your own comment and we will go from there. I will have to prioritize non edited comments because that is the only reliable timestamp I have. Note 2: On the (now locked) post on playingcards there was only one instance of a deck many people wanted (the "Verum Videre Christmas Edition (Signed)"). I have been pming for the last few hours everybody who reserved decks there to come here again and make a top-level comment with what they have reserved, so I will only keep reservations done here and the waiting list for the "Verum Videre Christmas Edition (Signed)" as it stood there. Note 3: it goes without saying I reserve myself the right of not trading with or selling to anyone I don't want to, whatever the reason might be. Hello there, everybody!
The day has finally come! After almost four months, the work on this list has come to an end. Quick shout-out to everybody who helped by checking prices, conditions of the decks, gathering information on the internet and with people in the industry, helping me coming up with clever solutions for Sheets automation and so on. Thank you all! Unfortunately for me, from now on this is basically a one man mission :)
A lot of consideration went into deciding on how to do this, how to tackle a project this size. There are around 1550 decks and a few accessories all bundled up in, as it stands right now, 1350 different items (plus the books on the secondary list).
So, who am I (regarding cards, that is)? I am a card collector based in the woods in Sweden (yeah, I live remote even for Swedish standards). Been collecting for two and a half years, worked in the casino industry as a dealer for quite some time (though I don't deal that frequently anymore I am more involved in logistics, inspecting and training) even with my "actual" profession being in a completely different field. I admin the only group of card collectors in Sweden on Facebook (trying to push fellow swedes to engage and participate a bit more - it was kind of a miracle we had a fairly successful Secret Santa last year haha) and been a contributor at Portfolio 52 basically since I started collecting (fixing tons of info and pictures there whenever I can and spot something). Also, because of circumstances, I ended up getting involved with some Kickstarter creators and still work with some of them on the background of their campaigns :)
The List!
I would like to believe all the relevant information is right there, easy to see, search and find.
All the decks are listed in alphabetical order (company>deck name) and color coded differently by different company's name. There are individual entries for every single deck (i.e. 10 copies of lets say "Saturn Red October" will have 10 different entries) that is not bundled up (example: Ellusionist's Prohibition Case V1 is one "item" only even though it has six decks).
Shelf/Box | Item# | Deck/Set/Accessories | Company/Designer | Printer | Year | Price (USD) | Condition | Status
When you decided for something you want, specially if that item has copies of it (but also when it doesn't), it is essential that you also write down the condition (M, A, B or C - more on that later) of that item so I know which one exactly do you want.
A bit of patience is required with it; it takes around five minutes for the published document to be update from the master list whenever I make a change (example: marking a deck as reserved or sold).
Available / Reserved / Sold!
Another thing that is very easy to see on the list is if a certain item is still available or if it has been reserved or sold already (check the "Status" column).
How do you "reserve" an item? Just make a top-level comment bellow with the items names and condition (M, A, B, or C - more on that later) and you are good to go! In case someone has already reserved a item you want to reserve and there are no copies of it, you can still make a top-level comment saying "I want item X condition Y" and I will let you know you are on that item's waiting list, you don't need to do anything else.
I am gonna give myself a buffer of two days from the time of posting this to see how things went and then start working on individual requests, pictures, etc. That doesn't mean I won't do that before two days, it is just so people don't expect it. During this time, whenever I am available, I will be answering things that are not on this post (this post will
NOT be updated for transparency sake, I will make an addendum in the comments about anything that needs to be corrected) or any other questions you guys and girls might have about the decks, conditions, pricing, shipping, etc. After this period I will check all the wish lists and put them in order (first come, first served of course), and grind the data from there.
Pricing / Condition
This is literally a
"BUYER BEWARE" section of this post, but first things first.
Pricing: as you will see, there many, many different items with prices lower than what it is being offered everywhere else on the internet, but there are also decks priced pretty competitively towards the market, and a few decks have a higher compared to other places. Are you free to make me an offer because you saw an item somewhere else for cheaper but you still want to buy it from me? Absolutely, but it won't be often this might go through. Am I open to trades? Absolutely, but then again, do not have high hopes for it. I am in no way expecting most of it to be sold in the coming one, or even two years. There will be a bunch of decks left after this, and that is ok. Also, everything is priced in USD.
Condition: big disclaimer here so this is as clear as it can possibly be:
EVERYTHING BEING SOLD HERE (DECKS, SETS, ACCESSORIES AND BOOKS) ARE SOLD "AS IS". As per Wikipedia: "As is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent." There is no way to put this out without sounding like an ass (maybe?) but this needs to be understood by both you and me.
Having said that, I have done all I could, to the best of my abilities, to condition every single item fairly, but of course this is still subjetive and it only represents the way I would see them. Basically the "M" decks are decks with no faults whatsoever (or nothing that I could possibly bother or notice to begin with), the "A" decks are minor imperfections I would not bother with even if it is a deck I had no intentions of opening it, "B" are decks I would probably contact the store / seller to talk about it, even if it was not my intention to request a refund (example: decks I would be opening anyway I still contact them but just to let them know and give some feedback) and "C" decks I would definitely contact the store / seller to know what could be done about it regarding some sort of compensation.
On the list you will see four different letters representing the conditions of the decks (and the respective discounts to each):
- M: Mint (base price). Some decks have no cellophane (signed, etc) or came with no seal but are still considered "M", it just depends on the condition of the tuck/cards.
- A: Almost mint (10% discount). Minuscule dents, minor issues with the cellophane or with the seal or other minor issues with the tuck. Basically no possibility of damage to the cards.
- B: Either bigger dents or issues or more quantities of minor dents or other issues. Very low possibility of damage to the cards.
- C: Bigger damage to tuck. Possibility of damage to the cards.
This was not an easy (or fun) run at all. I considered everything I could regarding the condition of all the 1550 decks: dented corners, dented sides, pressed bottom, pressed top, pressed seal, opened, no cellophane, cellophane broken, cellophane opened, scratched, smudged edge, seal partially broken inside the cellophane, no seal, issues with the bottom or top flap, etc etc etc.
As of now, these are the quantities of items with each condition (to a total of 1350 different items):
- M: 993
- A: 266
- B: 80
- C: 11
Obviously nobody wants to buy anything in the complete darkness, but neither could I take individual pictures of 1550+ decks and match each and everyone with the respective conditions (with the "free" time I have this would take years hahaha). Having said that, I will upon request (which might take some time but I am 100%, of course, willing to do so) take pictures of specific decks (matching condition/item#/etc).
I made a
small Imgur album with a few pictures of some of the decks and my username on it (please don't mind the mess of this new VERY OLD house with tons of renovation to be done we just moved in). Again, feel free to ask for additional info or pictures.
Shipping
It doesn't make it easier that one I live in Sweden and two I live in the middle of b$%f#&* nowhere in Sweden :) Basically the only shipping option I have here is Postnord, and I will absolutely not charge anything "a bit extra on top of shipping just to be sure but then people end up paying a bit more every time". If you want to have an idea of how much shipping would cost to you, go ahead and check
Postnord's own website.
Yet again, a lot of consideration went into this, and it is unfortunate but I have to say that
I can not and won't be responsible for any lost packages or packages damaged during transportation, in any stage of it. The responsibility I am taking here is to agree on a price for items + shipping, pack everything in a way that the parcel could probably take a severe beating and the itens would still arrive on the same way they were shipped (I am talking hard boxes and unethical - I don't remember which redditor said this but I promised myself I would take it for a future use so here I am - amounts of bubble plastic, paper, tapes, boxes inside boxes like a good old matryoshka, etc). I have sent close to a hundred parcels on the last two and a half years (to Sweden, Europe, US, Taiwan, etc) and not ONCE a single deck arrived in a different condition they were shipped in. Depending on location and kind of parcel, Postnord offers some "sort of insurance" I can claim if a package gets lost or damage. We might talk about it if you are interested but
I will only be able to refund any amount whatsoever after, and only if I am compensated by Postnord first. Payment Methods
Making this as short as I possibly can: buyer is responsible for all and any fees from Transferwise or Paypal (or any other payment method we agree upon - Swish in Sweden but I think it will be hard to find someone here that is not part of "Svenska Kortlekssamlare" already).
Transferwise you say? Yes, I use a lot of Transferwise.
Why? Cheapest fees charged by a service that accepts Swedish Crowns and deposits it directly on my bank account. Works in most countries, worth checking them out.
Does Transferwise has a buyer protection program like Paypal does? No, Transferwise, because I only use a personal account and not a traders account, has no buyer protection at all, whatsoever. It works like Paypal's Family and Friends, sort of.
I am not sure I feel comfortable using that, do you understand me? Absolutely, if you don't feel comfortable using a service like Transferwise (even though it is cheaper for you and easier for me), you are free for us to TRY to work something else out (like Paypal), but you have to remember my responsibility here is to send the decks we agreed upon, for the price of items + shipping we agreed upon, and packed very, very well; yet again,
I can not and won't be responsible for any lost packages or packages damaged during transportation, in any stage of it. If you rather use Paypal Family and Friends (I think inside Europe we don't pay fees to use that option but please someone correct me if I am wrong), you are also free to do so but ONLY if you understand what it entails and are comfortable with that.
Remember:
NO REFUNDS OR COMPENSATION FOR ITEMS DAMAGED OR LOST DURING TRANSPORTATION, IN ANY STAGE OF IT.
Final Considerations
Again, I think there is a lot of important and specific information here and because of that I won't edit this post for transparency sake. Any correction or new information will be posted in the comments.
I will have to let pass all my English mistakes I am sure I made so please, bear with me :)
HEY, YOU FORGOT THE LISTS!!!
Cheers! :)
submitted by Hi Courtney, my name is Gray, I’m 16 and a lot of shit has happened since things first started happening when I was 11. To start this off, back in 2015 My aunt, my best friend at the time, and I decided to take a trip up to Chicago for the weekend. We spent the whole day shopping. My friend had bought an ouija board at one of the shops, and after we finished shopping we headed back to our hotel. Looking back on it, I wish we would have just gone home. We stayed at the Crowne Plaza hotel (I didn’t know this at the time but it’s notorious for its black market) being the little shits we were we decided to play the ouija board while my aunt was showering. We sat on the floor with our hands pressed on the planchette for like 10 minutes and nothing happened so we decided it would be best to put the game away and order pizza. Being stupid little 11 year olds who knew nothing about the rules of the Ouija board we put the game up without saying goodbye. After pizza I went to bed totally forgetting about the ouija board, until about 3AM (I know cliche). I ended up waking up and I couldn’t move, now little 11 year old me had no idea what the fuck was happening, all I knew was “it’s dark, i can’t move, and there’s a burned human head at the end of my bed” YEAH it looked like a malnourished and badly burned human. I Shit you not it started crawling up the bed slowly and I could feel it crawling up me. When it got to my chest it was gone and I bolted up screaming. My friend stopped talking to me after that trip and I’ve had night terrors ever since(I’ll talk about them later) - so next is summer 2017, I went on another trip with my aunt and my sister, Lydia. This time to Minnesota, we were stayed in a casino this time. I can’t remember much about the place except that it reeked of cigarettes no matter where you were. So on this specific night, it was our last night in Minnesota, my aunt had stayed up late to make sure we had everything packed so we could leave early. She had the TV on just for background noise and according to her I sat up in my sleep and let out a scream and the tv then flipped itself off. Then I apparently mumbling in French (English is my second language). She told me about what had happened the next morning as we were leaving. - August 2018, I was skipping school because I had had a cold and felt like shit, I was sitting at the kitchen table and my chair got thrown across the room, keep I mind I am a 14 year old boy at this point and I weighed 140-150, so it’s kinda hard to Yeet me across the room. Later that same day I had had an argument with my mum about something. I was about to walk into my room and I heard a bunch of crashing. My window had shattered and there was blood all over my room, also keep in mind my room is in the backyard which is fenced in, the police were also called they took DNA samples of the blood but they came back inconclusive.
OKAY TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE DREAMS I’ve had very vivid dreams for as long as I can remember, but the night terrors just started a few years ago. 1. The date, time, and location in the dream is always different but always ends in me being burned alive by people is demon masks - (not a dream) I’m in a group where we go out and clean up areas like once a month. So on this specific day we were cleaning in a wooded area not too far off of a road, like we could still see the road from where we were cleaning. And one of the other guys in my group goes “hey guys look at this!” And pull a devil mask IDENTICAL to the ones from this dream out of a clump of mud and grass or some shit. 2. I’m running through the woods being chased by some dark entity, I trip over a tree root, break my ankle, then the entity devours me and I wake up 3. I’m exploring an abandon school with my friends, Katie and Emmalyn, we end up splitting up for some reason and they’re gone for a while then I go looking for them and find them in different rooms both of them dead. So that was fun (not). 4. I’m driving down a country road, on either side there we’re cornfields. There was a young man in the passenger seat, he was blonde with blue eyes and had a faint scar that started in between his eyes and curved over his left eye brow. I drove until we came to a cabin in a clearing in the field. We both got out of the car and went into the house. In the dream, it was suddenly night and I was standing in a kitchen looking at the young man. He was standing in the empty living room staring at the door. He stood there for what in the dream seemed like hours. The man then ran out the door into the corn field and I followed. I couldn’t see him, then I found my way to the center of the field. There was a tall cloaked figure standing there. The figure leaned down and kissed my left cheek. Then I woke up. -There was a mark on my cheek where the figure had kissed me in the dream and it burned like hell. (I’ll try and find a picture but I don’t remember if I took one) I told my friend about this when it happened and I shit you not he goes “Bro, I think you met death.” 5. I was at a Christmas party with my family and I’m the midst of playing hide and seek. I found an old board game in my grandpas room. My grandpa then found me and begged me not to open it, and then he died (in the dream). I didn’t get the chance to open it but then we were board at the Christmas party again so I was looking in the hall closet again for a game for us to play. I found the same game but the box was different, it was light pink and had peppermints on the cover with a little gingerbread man mid run with the words “run-run man” written on it with red twizzlers. Lydia (my sister) immediately took interest and tried to grab the game from me I pushed her away and started to read the back. (I don’t remember exactly what the back said) On the back there were warnings about the game, there were also “reviews” from people who had played the game, they’re were the pictures and ages of the players, a 4 year old, an 8 year old, a 16 year old, two 20 year olds, and all of them said “do not play this game”. I held onto the box so no one could open it, I then went to a different closet to look for a different game for us to play. There I found another box with similar packaging, but it was a doll box so it had the clear plastic on it, I can’t remember what the doll looked like. My family then sat around the tree so the younger kids could open gifts. My brother got his first, he opened it and it was the game, then my sister opened hers it was the doll, I wasn’t holding them anymore, and then I woke up. - I told some of my witchy friends about this and they think I have a dream demon attached to me, so if anyone has any advice for that please let me know! This is the end of the dreams that I can remember. also I said earlier that my sister had an experience too, this is not Lydia but the sister who shares a room with her. She was laying facing her wall one night when she suddenly felt weight on the end of her bed. She thought it was Lydia so she turned to tell her to get off her bed. When she turned however, there was no one there and Lydia was asleep in her bed on the other side of the room. And that’s it, sorry for the long post, I’ll update if anything happens.
Edit: I forgot to mention that in the “run-run man” dream my grandpa’s “ghost” kept appearing only to say “you have 10 hours to hide”. I’ve also found small bruises on my arms and legs that I can’t remember where I got them from? Not necessarily paranormal, just weird.
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When the original Take A Stand was released, it quickly became noted as one of the best Zootopia fan-fic’s, often coming at the top of recommendation lists.
I wasn’t as keen, considering it a B+ Fic. It was a good read, but it wasn’t great. It had fun moments, but also faults. I said so in my review once it had ended.
Almost immediately after, Take A Stand: Stars of Ceartais was started, and like the original it has been updating weekly. This alone is impressive, given that each chapter is 5,000-6,000 words. For comparison, while my main stories did update twice weekly, that was only after I got 60-70% of the first draft done beforehand. I have written faster than Crewe during NaMoWriZo (50,000 words in one month), which resulted in poor quality and left me drained afterwards, though I have managed to write unproofed chapters at his rate.
Anyway, looking back over a year after its release, the reception seems much more tepid. I’ve seen people rant and decry about it, others saying that while they loved the original, they couldn’t get into the second. I myself was willing to give the idea a go, and have been following the story ever since though better moments and worse.
The question is, though, why does this fic have so many negative reviews? Why, when it should be promoting an awesome concept like superheroes in Zootopia, does it happen to leave a sour taste in the mouth of many.
Initially, my opinion of the Take a Stand series was that it was good but, due to silly mistakes, not great. I thought that removing the in-sentence authors notes
(AN: Hey, it’s J-Shute-Norway here: Just giving one of you all an example of how hideously jarring and distracting those things are), cleaning up the grammar and ending the infuriating and unnecessary translations of British English/ sayings into American English would be all that was needed. Looking back now, it’s obvious that there are much more in-depth issues with the fic. I think it’s worth examining them all, so that everyone reading can learn and improve on them. I myself have learnt a bit from doing this analysis, so hopefully my future fics will benefit.
While I only looked into the Take a Stand discord once, I often lurk on Crewe’s tumblr, which has been interesting. From it, I’ve seen that he takes a ton of influence from superhero comics. He’s also reblogged game of thrones stuff, and I assume that this is an influence on the way he’s tried to set out TAS 2 (I’ll be using this as a reference point). I learnt that he does plan out his chapters in advance, and advises on giving new characters big intro’s (which gave some new flavour to some of my planned criticisms). He’s also consulting a lot with his discord in planning out the next story, though I don’t know if he did so with this one. If he did plan this story with them, it would be interesting to find out what kind of things they suggested, and whether they overall had a positive or negative effect on the story.
I also learnt that he’s dyslexic, something I didn’t know on the numerous occasions when I attacked the fic’s poor grammar.
As a result, I’d like to apologise now for any hurt that I caused, and state that I’ll avoid being harsh on him over it. A few final things that I’d like to say before we get started. Firstly, I’ll be comparing this story to the original film, as well as to other films (Star wars and star trek ones, along with some superhero ones). Anime such as attack on titan, and books/ tv like game of thrones will also be points of reference. I may talk about some of my fics, and I’ll definitely be looking at Kittah’s
’Familiar Fire’ which is an excellent superhero fic.
A lot of what I’ll be going over should be considered less as rules, more as guides. There is no perfect way of creating a story, and it would be boring if there was. Treat the things I say as the pillars of a bridge. Removing one is fine, but the more you take out the more talent/ planning you need to keep the whole structure standing. I myself will have likely failed to meet all of these in my stories, as will pretty much every writer. If anyone is offended by what I say, feel free to do your own review of this style for my main stories (Zootopia: the original plot, Coming to reward them, and Lead Role in a Cage (maybe Christmas carols or evacuated/ the evacuee as well)). I’ll be interested to read what comes up. (As for my two earliest stories, I know they’re bad and admit as much, just as Crewe does with his first).
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Tell me mistakes. Tell me sweet little mistakes .
First off, silly errors, starting with in-story author’s notes.
AVOID If you want to clarify something with an author’s note, stick it at the bottom of the chapter. There are many better ways to get info across, as I’ll now show. I’ll give you an example of one of these authors notes that he did in TAS1 (not exactly copied), and then show you alternative methods.
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and starting some bubble and squeak for Judy (AN: Hey, it’s Crewe here. Bubble and squeak is a delicious British dish made up of leftover mashed potato and roast vegetables, which you fry up and have with breakfast)
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and starting some bubble and squeak (leftover roast veg and potatoes, fried up crispy) for Judy.
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and started some bubble and squeak for Judy. She quickly retrieved a roasting tin full of crispy vegetables leftover from the night before and, mixing them up with mashed potatoes, she dropped them into a ripping hot pan, watching as they slowly turned crispy.
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and adding some ingredients to it. “Bubble and squeak,” she explained, smiling. “It’s just leftover veg and mash fried up, but I’ll tell you what. It’ll sort that hangover out, dumb bunny.”
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and started some bubble and squeak for Judy. It may have just been fried up leftover veg and mash, but if this bunny was anything like her son, she’d love it.
- Marian smiled, turning down to the pan and started some bubble and squeak for Judy.
Note I didn’t offer any explanation in the last one. Why? Sometimes you don’t need to have any. People can look it up. People are able to figure that the bonnet of the car is the front bit, and don’t need to be informed that it’s the hood. Calling someone a billy-no-mate’s is self-explanatory, we don’t need a definition. Crewefox, either join me and don’t apologise for your dialect of English, or just write American style.
As for the grammar, I’ll cover sentence structure when we look at fight scenes. But for now, I’ll advise Crewe to hand his chapters over to a google docs folder linked to his discord, so his close followers can go over it for a week preparing it for release. Again, the fact he’s dyslexic makes this far more forgivable, and I’d like to apologise for the times where I was previously overly harsh.
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The Plot Weakens (part 1: Structure) .
Before any of you react and call foul, let me say that I’m not a 3 act structure nazi. I’ll be focussing on it a lot, but I’ll let other structures have a limelight.
What is a three act structure? Simply put, it’s a story that has a beginning, middle and end. Ask yourself, does TAS 2 have a beginning, middle and end? Where are they? Think about this, as we’ll return to it later.
In more broad terms, a three-act structure is a framework which you use to set a story out. It has three sections: the introduction, the development, and the resolution. These sections are usually distinct and have an ending in which things can’t be taken back. Many stories also have a notable high point/ turning point in the middle of the second act.
Think back to Zootopia. Does it have a beginning, middle and end? It does: Pre- Judy taking the case (ending in the point of no return, with the deal); Nick and Judy working together up until the press conference (point of no return); post press conference. It’s worth noting that there’s a distinct midpoint in the centre of the second act, Nick defending Judy and revealing his story. This acts as a culmination of his character development up to this point, and show’s that he is not the fox we met at the beginning.
In here, the acts are not so much defined by location (Star wars: a new hope, and the empire strikes back, being prime examples of this) but by the relationships the characters have with each other. This puts it more in line with films like
The Wrath of Khan where the acts are defined by the power dynamics between characters.
Back to TAS 2. Where would you say the beginning, middle and end are? In my view, the most likely situation is that the intro arc ends in the chapter before they go out on patrol, chapter 10. When does the second act end? I’d be tempted to say the opera house attack, when the team’s identities are revealed to their parents (Chapter 36), but I’d put it a bit later. Chapter 38 and chapter 39. Here the dust settles, the team signs up as deputies, and the origin of the drowned is revealed. However, many things don’t match up, as I’ll now explain.
- Let’s look at the Luna/ Alice subplot, the biggest by far. Their first act ends when they sleep together (chapter 25). As for when the second act ends? You either have the point when Alice’s time in Zootopia is put in peril/ Luna tries to confess (chapter 42), or when Alice and Luna are found out by the rest of the team (chapter 47) and then her family (chapter 48). Then, in 52, Karasushiro is introduced and in 53 he takes Alice away. That’s loosely a three act structure, but it’s pulled down by Karasushiro being introduced so late on and then taking her the chapter after his intro. Having him talked about much earlier on, building his reputation up in the first and second acts, would have done much to fix this. Instead, he just seems to exist to put a spanner in the works right at the end, acting like a Deus-ex-machina.
- The next biggest subplot is Rattigan. He appears in chapter 15. Where does his intro end? In chapter 20, Basil and Dave are shown spying on him, while in chapter 24 he parlays with Judy. I suppose you learn of his plans there, but nothing changes. Arguably his intro act ends when he beats up Blake, putting Olivia on the warpath. That’s in chapter 44, so he’s still in his intro phase while the two main plotlines are entering their ending. He then gets chased down by Spitfire, and then killed in chapter 47. He doesn’t really have a proper story, does he? He arrives, a big fuss is made of him, then he goes too far, gets captured and is killed by two characters who he hasn’t hurt at all (at least in this fic) and who haven’t shown any inclination of wanting to kill him. Blake recovering and waking up, arguably a wrap up scene, occurs in chapter 51.
- Camelot are first introduced in chapter 7, and end up in an alliance with Ceartais in chapter 23. They then almost loose Aleks in chapter 37.
- Kiara is introduced in chapter 2, gets splatted in 4, spotted in 11 and only reappears properly in 14. She’s hunted sporadically up until chapter 20, then gets recruited by the drowned. She’s first seen in action in chapter 29, and then appears sporadically until being defeated in chapter 48.
- The status of other characters and their relationships tend to go at various rates and levels.
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As you can see, while there tends to be a fairly large act transition around the opera house, before that it’s unclear. You have the middle of Ceartais’ story being interfered by the intros of Alice and Rattigan. He’s still waiting to do his thing during the opera house, and then a few chapters after the end of his first act he’s dead. Overall the act breaks, rather than lining up and complimenting each other, throw each other off and lessen the impact. One of the biggest examples of this clashing might be the scene where Blake wakes up in chapter 51. This would be the kind of scene to end Rattigan’s story on, as it adds a sense of finality. Yet it occurs before the final.
It also doesn’t help that these are very weak ‘act breaks’. In many cases (such as with Alice getting in trouble with the yakuza) the events aren’t that much different than the rest of their story. There’s no big dividing line, and the before and after still don’t seem that different. Compare this to
The Empire strikes back. All three acts have distinct locations, despite there being multiple plot threads. Alternatively, i
n The Wrath of Khan both sides get built up in an intro, and the middle part of the story begins when they first come into contact/ combat. This ends when one seems completely victorious and the other totally defeated, only for Kirk to pull out the ace up his sleeve, thus throwing us into the final act.
A Game of Thrones is a book that manages to pull off a three-act structure very well, despite having multiple character threads and viewpoints. The main story is split into three parts (before arriving at kings landing, between there and the coup attempt, after the coup attempt). I’ll use the episode numbers to show this.
- Arya and Sansa’s story is directly tied to this (episode 3 for arrival, episode 7 for the coup)
- Jon arrives at castle black in episode 2, and he takes he oath (immediately finding the bodies) in episode 7.
- Tyrion arrives at castle black in episode 2 with Jon, he then gets taken to the eyrie and released in episode 6, before helping his father on the battlefield.
- Catelyn stops the catspaw assassin in episode 2, takes sees Tyrion released in 6, then goes to aid Rob.
- Bran wakes up just after the catspaw, in episode 2. Osha arrives in episode 6. *Daenerys finds she’s pregnant in episode 2, and her brother gets his golden crown in episode 7.
As you can see here, the beginnings, middles and ends of each plot thread line up very closely. This makes things less confusing and improves the flow of the plot. Unlike TAS2, where the story beats clash and conflict, in Game of Thrones they line up and complement each other. Moreover, either the location changes or the power dynamics change. Jon goes from a bastard, to a recruit, to a sworn brother. Tyrion goes from the wall, to the eyrie, to the Riverland’s. Daenerys goes from a scared girl being sold and tormented by her brother, to a powerful queen, to letting her brother die at her husband’s hands.
Compare this to Robyn. She’s a bi girl with anger problems who lives in Zootopia, gains superpowers, becomes a vigilante and then… Her parents find out about it, and she carries on as is... Then? It’s pretty much the same with Hannah, or the rest of the team bar Luna. Nick does become mayor, but then what? (Though he does react well when he finds out the truth). I’ll cover this later when looking at characters.
Another issue is that, after the end of the introduction, the second act of the story is very long and meanders a lot. There is no real sense of where or when it will end, which isn’t helped by all the out of sync subplots. In Zootopia we kind of knew that the second act would involve them finding out the truth about Otterton. In star wars, it was leaving the death star with Leia.
Familiar Fire is dominated by its intro arc (you could consider it a two arc story), but that does have a set endpoint (the characters 18th birthday). You progress towards it at a slow but steady rate, and when you get there you have a huge surge in action, a big transition/ change and a namedrop for the big bad, letting you immediately know that the second arc will end when he returns.
Finally, in terms of the final act, this is where you want the least distractions
especially if you’re going for action. In Zootopia, Judy finds out the truth, reconnects with Nick and then goes straight off to find the criminals. In
Empire Strikes Back we have a tiny respite for Han and Leia before dinner with Darth and things picking up again.
Wrath of Khan has Kirk transporting back up to the enterprise and then we have the battle of the Mutara nebula. In TAS2, the other act transitions create a distraction, as does the Bunnyburrow visit. It’s not a bad set of scenes, but there’s no sense of urgency or tension which is what’s needed for your final act. Gistech’s
Waking Death does this right by having his Bunnyburrow arc as the mid-point/ second act of the fic, the characters then returning to Zootopia for the climax.
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As promised, a quick look at other plot structures. The first one is the 5 act structure, used by Shakespeare (the usual go to is Romeo and Juliet) and, more recently, in Star Wars: The last Jedi. The acts are: exposition/ set up, complications/ increasing tension, climax/ the tension releases, falling action/ picking up the pieces, catastrophe/ resolution/ denouement... wrapping it up either well or badly. Aka. The third civil brawl, Romeo and Juliet fall in love, Romeo attacking Tybalt, Romeo in exile and Juliet getting betrothed to Paris, the suicides. Or: The base evacuation and dreadnought battle and Rey trying to get Luke to start training; the run from the first order and Po’s mutiny, Finn and Rose’s mission, Rey’s training; the evacuation and ram attack, Finn and Rose vs Phasma, Rey and Kylo vs Snoke; the defence of the Kryat base and the rebels ‘defeat’; Luke’s return and last stand.
The five-act structure could be considered a three act structure, with the second act split into three. It works for some stories better than others. The youtube channel
Lessons from the screenplay argued that the Avengers, while it could be classed as a 3 act story with a big central break (the hellicarrier being attacked), could just as well be a 5 act story (act 1 and 1 line up. Act 2 and 2 and 3 line up. Act 3 and 4 and 5 line up).
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Finally, the multi-act story, for which I’ll use both
Attack on Titan and* Kill Bil*l. It works as each act/ arc is distinct. For the former, each arc operates as a 'crisis', which rightfully pulls everyone’s attention to it, away from other issues, until said crises is resolved. In addition, each arc can easily be named and usually has a unique place, name, foe and ending. Fall of Shinganshinka, training, Trost, survey corps training, female titan, Stohess, Utgard, clash of titans…
The main conflict of each arc is resolved at end, though open threads are still left (e.g. the beast titan). In effect, most arcs operated as individual stories, often with their own 3 act structures.
- Trost: Battle up until rogue titan appears, battle with rogue titan in play up until reveal, rogue titan plugging the wall.
- Female titan: Female titan catching up with eren, female titan captured and escaped (super short arc), female titan revenge then titan clash and then defeat by Levi.
- Stohess: infiltration (up until big reveal), battle pt 1 (up until rogue titan transforms), battle pt 2 (up until end, with defeat of female titan).
- Utgard: Reacting to titan invasion. Battle of/ ride to utgard. Ymir reveal.
- Clash of titans: Reveal and battle by wall. Both sides licking wounds. Battle in the field and the coordinate reveal.
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Kill Bill meanwhile also had a multi-act story along with a non-traditional flow. Just like Attack on Titan, each arc has its own enemy and setting. It’s distinct. It doesn’t matter that you’re going backwards and forwards in time, you know exactly where you are. Compare that to TAS2. Once they go on patrol it’s just battling bad guys over and over again in the city, even if there are separate arcs (e.g. rose thorn, opera house, the stadium). With these arcs though, you could take a scene from one, put it in another, and it wouldn’t seem out of place.
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All in all, TAS 2 is a long story, and it would sorely benefit from distinct parts, with the characters progressing through their plotlines at similar rates. However, that’s lacking, so it feels more like a jumbled mess with the characters doing the same motions over and over again.
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The Plot Weakens (part 2: themes and story threads) .
Looking at game of thrones, the plot seems very complex. Just like TAS 2, it has tons of characters doing different things, with their own motives. However, in my view, TAS 2 is far more complex than GOT (the book) is, and this is one of the things that gives it its structural issues.
Let’s look at themes first. GOT is simple, it’s a deconstruction and criticism of traditional medieval/ fantasy stories and tropes. Additional themes are politics and realism.
Likewise,
Familiar Fire is a deconstruction of the
fantasy school fiction/ tropes, e.g. Professor X’s academy and Hogwarts. You also have the theme of regret and issues stemming from a lack of communication and trust. These are two themes that can easily be woven beside each other in a story.
Now look at the original Take a Stand first. Its themes can be split into groups: reconnecting with family, both known and unknown; lgbt awakening and lgbt rights; love in the face of adversary... and: vigilantism, supervillains and crime. TAS was able to wed the vigilantism into the family/ love side of things, given that it had split Nick’s family up. This was kept going until the end, when separate endings were given for each set of themes. Not that bad by itself, but I’ll get onto the big issues of the originals ending later. TAS2 has all those themes, along with: revenge, mental health, religious cults, disaster recovery, terrorism, underworld assassins, public relations and rabid shipping. Far more unwieldy, far harder to tie together, far more jarring and distracting when they clash (e.g. dessert tasting after the opera house battle).
Themes are most notably expressed in plot threads, with some threads specifically used to express a certain theme (Book readers, remember Quentyn? Adventure sucks). Also, while GOT (book) had many characters with their own threads, they were interlinked and 90% of them fell into various camps based on one central conflict. The Starks vs the Lannisters. Their plot threads are thus linked to this common ground.
When looking at superhero films, good ones follow the same principles. In
The Dark Knight, the Joker created Two-Face, the secondary villain, as a weapon against the hero as well as a way of proving that everyone could be corruptible (a personification of the themes the Joker represented). Before this, Harvey Dent had been a key figure in fighting the Joker, and a key ally of the hero. The two main villains and the hero were interlinked, you can’t have on without the other. This is what separates multi-villain stories into good and bad. Even Batman vs Superman made the secondary villain a creation/ weapon of last resort of the primary one.
The Avengers was a team-up movie that brought together established characters and pitted them against a sole unifying threat, Loki. One core plot point, thread and aim, learn to work together and stop Loki, shared by all of th*em. Guardians of the Galaxy *vol1 is similar, but also handles origin stories (and is likely the closest thing to what TAS2 was trying to emulate). Think back. Simple 3 act structure, characters unified throughout by one goal (which did evolve, dependent on situation), a core unifying villain.
In TAS 2, there are multiple plot threads made out to be the main one or core sub ones (Ceartais vs drowned, Ceartais vs Rattigan, LunAlice, Robyn and Hannah, Phelps, Alice vs the underworld, Sasha’s photography, Nick being the mayor, Camelot vs the drowned, Kiara, Basil and Dave vs Rattigan, Blake’s parentage…). These plot threads are often unlinked, independent of each other, and often don’t get the justice they deserve. Lots of things get put on hold while LunAlice is sorted out. Near the beginning Kiara was a key focus, but isn’t brought up for ages unless being used as a heavy by the Drowned. Then she suddenly reappears, right after Rattigan’s death (taking away most of the levity of the moment), for a battle against Roar which she loses in the next chapter. Speaking of Rattigan, he has no link with the Drowned and no reason to share a fic with them. Same with Alice, she could be hired by any other bad guy. This is why I was so happy when Phelps and the drowned were shown to be working together, they had a reason to be in the same story. By and large, if some characters have no reason for sharing a story, they shouldn’t be sharing a story. Just like too many cooks ruining the stew, all these independent stories distract and take away from each other, rather than adding.
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Endings .
When we get to the ending(s), Rattigan is wrapped up first (with a whimper rather than a bang) in chapter 47. The main plot threads we have established with him in this fic is his rivalry with Olivia’s family, his control over Blake’s, and how Ceartais and the cops know he’s a criminal. None of these are used, instead we have Finnick and Fru-Fru come in and murder him in his bed, retribution for the death of Mr Big in TAS 1. Finnick, Fru-Fru and Judy Big meaningfully appeared
Twice in the 45+ chapters preceding this. Once attacked by the drowned (another plot thread that wasn’t acted on) and once to get Ronin to act against the yakuza (The Big’s vs Yakuza thread was spirited into existence, I’ll explain more about why this was so bad later). While I understood why Fru-Fru had it done, remembering it from TAS1 when brought up, if this was to be Rattigan’s fate it should have been brought up sooner. A meeting between Fru-Fru and Basil, where she explains her need for revenge. Or what about when Alice met with her? Or even better, scrap Fru-Fru all together. How about Basil confronting his long-time nemesis, and he being the one to beat him using his wit and cunning.
- Kiara’s ending in 48 is better handled, given that she’s pacified by the two characters most invested in her (Kion and Ray), with help from Andraste. I also like how Andraste used her powers intelligently and creatively to stop her. However, removing her reduced the threat of the drowned (and made itself less powerful) by doing this early.
- The LunAlice ending (also 48), when Luna comes clean to her family, was perfectly reasonable plot wise, though I felt that it was more ‘average chapter drama’ at the time. It didn’t so much feel as an ending, but more a tying of loose ends, and felt very weak as a result.
- Then, we get a standard chapter for 49, with people doing stuff. It’s not a bad chapter by itself, but the fact remains that it’s doing ‘beginning of third act’ stuff for both Kiara (her beginning to recover) and Alice (her finally infiltrating the drowned base). Those kinds of things would have been better served right after the opera house (with Alice tagging along with Phelps for his reveal, and Kiara being caught as the one victory after the drowned attack), instead of those much-maligned desserts.
- Chapter 50 has Robyn make peace with Luna in a complete heal turn with no reasons for the change given (deeply unsatisfying) and Phelps is killed by the drowned in an even worse send off than Rattigan. It was poetic justice, but it was written very matter-of-factly, and there was no sense of fight or struggle and no satisfaction.
- Chapter 51 does open with a very good, very tense, raid by Camelot on the drowned. They take their base, but find that the troops are already gone. We then get standard (but admittedly well written) character moments (even though they should be panicking at the suddenly missing army), plus an introduction to Karasushiro.
- In 52 Karasushiro, with next to no buildup, takes Ronin (in a fairly tense scene), and that’s it… Also, the drowned start the final stage of the master plan. At the very least, we see that the good guys were trying to do something about the drowned beforehand (hack their files and uncover their plan), even though it seems to be far less than you’d expect given the magnitude of the problem.
- There is absolutely nothing wrong with chapter 53. This is what all chapters at this stage of the fic should be like. Everyone’s at their battle stations and things are moving at a fast and tense pace. The same can be said for chapter 54, it does its job and does it well, wrapping up the main plotline with the defeat of the drowned.
- Chapter 55 and 56 (the epilogue) are yet to release, but I presume 55 will be letting the dust settle and 56 will serve more as a bridge between this and take a stand 3.
To sum up, the climax of the story is spread over 7 chapters, i.e. 1/8th of the story length. This would be fine, but the way Crewefox wrote it has some serious issues. The key one is that all the individual plot arcs are revolved one at a time, each taking their turn to do so. While these resolve themselves to various levels of satisfaction, there isn’t that much of a level of triumphalism to them. To understand what I’m talking about, I advise watching this video on the endings of
Casino Royale vs the Matrix. In short, the ending of the matrix is so good as the four main plot arcs (Neo vs Smith, Neo being the one, Trinity’s relationship with Neo and the machine attack) are resolved within minutes of each other (the equivalent of one chapter) before quickly wrapping the story up after that. There’s still the equivalent of the 7 chapters of climax before that (the whole rescue operation for Morpheus), but it’s building up the action to the true climax.
TAS2 meanwhile gives you smaller climax after smaller climax resolving themselves in a neatly ordered package. Worse still, most of the plot threads that are wrapped up are weak to begin with. Rattigan is the biggest example, even before the wrong people kill him. Kiara too, given that it was the weakest of the plotlines and little was done about it. Robyn and Alice coming to terms happened for no reason, while Karasushiro had no buildup. The only eventful plot threads that got resolved were, in my opinion, LunAlice and Ceartais vs the drowned. The only one with a truly good wrap-up was the latter and even then there were faults, mainly with Fuli. She was caught mourning a character we’d never heard of before trying to take out two team members. What exactly was resolved here? What did she win? What point did she prove? What did she learn in her last moments? What internal tenant of hers was enshrined or destroyed? How was her character arc resolved?
It wasn’t. It almost seems that her dying was required by a box ticking exercise. The same can be said for all characters and factions who either survived or died that day. Now, uber spoilers ahead and this is more a pet peeve, so anyone who hasn’t read the fic should skip ahead….
Let’s look at the big death’s…
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Robin and Marian (presuming they are dead, the blast may have only torn the front half of their train carriage off. I wouldn’t put it past Crewe).
I was sad to see them go (and would love to see them survive), and their last goodbye was brilliantly written, but they were still side characters in this fic. Their death was a culmination of what exactly?
I don’t know.
Maybe, to fix this, they could have been pressing throughout the story that Zootopia needed heroes willing to sacrifice things for it, using this defence against Nick (which only added to his fury), before dying as an embodiment of their ideals?
I probably wouldn’t be pressing this point if it weren’t for the fact that their sacrifice seemed completely unnecessary. To recount: After infiltrating the train, hacking it to detach most of the carriages and fighting the last few drowned they are badly injured and have lost their bomb stopping macguffin. With the main bomb wired up on a pressure plate to stop it being moved, they choose to detonate a secondary bomb, presumably killing them and stopping the chemical weapon before it can reach Zootopia.
Now, I can see them choosing to go out with a bang if they’re both mortally wounded. But from the description, it seemed that Marian was in serious need of medical attention but could hang on while Robin had bad cuts to his neck (with no indication the jugular was hit). Ronin had previously lost an arm and survived, so Robin (with some quick handiwork) should have at least been okay until spitfire could get there. If you wanted them to die that day, it could have been made clear that Robin’s jugular was cut (with him trying to hold it shut, but blood shooting out fast). As for Marian, in a callback to Ronin’s first clash, have dark blood pouring out of her. Her liver pulverised, she also knows she’ll bleed out.
To me, their injuries in the real scene seemed to show that they could hold on for a bit and, as I saw them go, I couldn’t help but have the emotional moment ruined by one thought.
Why don’t they stop the train? If Marian could use hacking to decouple a carriage in mid-journey, something you’d need an angle grinder for in reality, then she can surely turn on the brakes? Stop the train there and then, and get spitfire to pick them up. It’s not like their tech to do so is gone, how else do they put up the livestream at the end? I’m not aware of a speed-type thing going on.
I was thinking about this today, and there are so many missed opportunities.
- They could call the driver, getting him to stop the train.
- If he’s a cultist, they could break into the front cabin and put on the breaks (peanuts compared to Ronin’s escape).
- In the livestream they could ask the team to contact the signalling control. Trains like that would automatically stop if they passed a red light.
- Better yet, being in an earthquake zone, there should be a remote system for stopping the trains (like on the bullet train, something Robin might have experienced in Japan).
- Or get them to divert the train onto a line that avoids Zootopia if possible.
- Realistically, the previous two should have been implemented as safeguards as soon as the train departed bunnyburrow.
- Assuming the drowned have a cultist controlling the signal, and Marian’s hacking tool was destroyed, they could at least give diffusing the bomb themselves a go?
- Or move the C4 charge next to the chemical weapon (which we didn’t see in their carriage IIRC) and retreat as far as possible. At least improve their chances.
- Better yet, do the above but only use a bit of the C4 since it has the consistency of playdough and can be torn/ shaped. It took me reading up about this to learn it, but they might have a better knowledge of this stuff. But the best plan of all, sabotage the train right as it leaves the station, or as soon as the plot is discovered at the absolute latest. Hack the engine. Hack some of the breaks to come on. Maybe mess with the points as it comes into the station so that it derails. They had at least on hour, very likely 2+ to talk over all these strategies and come up with something. Heck, even when Marian detaches the previous carriages, she could have put on some of the breaks to stop them.
Robin and Marian were at the top of their game, so these plotholes seem huge. At the very least, show them fighting. Show them trying. Or show that death’s coming whatever they do, and they choose to go out with a bang. Maybe even have another arc with these two, being that people think they’re cocky and will end up rushing in and getting someone killed, that someone ultimately being them (and having them reflect/ lampshade their error before pulling their trigger).
As for the final two chapters. I presume that the next one will have Robin and Marian’s funeral and/or return from the dead. We’ll get a closer for the drowned with Bunga, along with the first cultists being deprogrammed. Probably some stuff with Kiara, along with Kion introducing Jasiri to his parents… Potentially a postcard for Luna from Alice. Finally, of course, Hannah will propose to Robyn, with their marriage in the epilogue. Maybe someone being pregnant in that too.
Any plot points that come up will be unlikely to affect my main issues here, though they could (potentially) learn from them (e.g. the funeral scene using some tips I put in later).
submitted by Hi Courtney, my name is Peter, I’m 15 and a lot of shit has happened since things first started happening when I was 11. Back in 2016 My aunt, my best friend at the time, and me decided to take a trip up to Chicago for the weekend. We spent the whole day shopping, my friend had bought an ouija board at one of the shops, and then we went back to our hotel. Looking back on it, I wish we would have just gone home. We stayed at the Crowne Plaza hotel, I didn’t know this at the time but it’s notorious for its black market. While my aunt was showering, my friend decided we were going to play with the ouija board. We sat on the floor with our hands pressed on the planchette, we sat like that for almost 10 minutes, nothing happened. We decided it would be best to put the game away and order pizza, so we put the game up without saying goodbye. After pizza we went to bed and I woke up around 3:00am, I tried to roll over, i couldn’t and that’s when I realized I was having sleep paralysis. I tried to look around the room there was something at the end of my bed, it looked like a malnourished and badly burned human. It started crawling up the bed slowly, I could feel it on my chest then it was gone, I bolted up and screamed. My friend stopped talking to me after that trip and I’ve had night terrors ever since(I’ll talk about them later) - Summer of 2017 I went on another trip with my aunt, this time to Minnesota, we stayed in a casino this time. I can’t remember much about the place except that it stunk of cigarettes. This time I shared a room with my aunt and my younger sister. My aunt had stayed up late watching the TV and according to her I sat up in my sleep and let out a scream, the tv then flipped itself off and I started mumbling in French which is my second language. She told me about what had happened that night after we had long left the casino. - August 2018, I was skipping school because I had had a cold and felt like shit, I was sitting at the kitchen table and my chair got thrown across the room, keep I mind I am a 14 year old boy at this point and I weighed 140-150, so it’s kinda hard to Yeet me across the room. Later that same day I had had an argument with my mum about something. I was about to walk into my room and I heard a bunch of crashing. My window had shattered and there was blood all over my room, also keep in mind my room is in the backyard which is fenced in, the police were also called they took DNA samples of the blood but they came back inconclusive. - This last one came up couple of days ago when my friend and I were talking about repetitive dreams. I’ve had these night terrors since Chicago. - 1. The date, time, and location in the dream is always different but always ends in me being burned alive by people is demon masks - 2. I’m running through the woods being chased by some dark entity, I trip over a tree root, break my ankle, then the entity devours me and I wake up - 3. I’m exploring an abandon school with my friends, Katie and Emmalyn, we end up splitting up for some reason and they’re gone for a while then I go looking for them and find them in different rooms both of them dead But yeah that’s my story, I’ll update if anything else happens -Peter Edit: hey remember that mask from the cult dream? Yeah found one of those :) I’ve also had more experiences with dreams lately and my sister has had experiences too. The First dream happened a few weeks ago. I was in a car driving down a country road, on either side there we’re cornfields. There was a young man in the passenger seat, he was blonde with blue eyes and had a faint scar that started in between his eyes and curved over his left eye brow. I drove until we came to a cabin in a clearing in the field. We both got out of the car and went into the house. In the dream, it was suddenly night and I was standing in a kitchen looking at the young man. He was standing in the empty living room staring at the door. He stood there for what in the dream seemed like hours. The man then ran out the door into the corn field and I followed. I couldn’t see him, then I found my way to the center of the field. There was a tall cloaked figure standing there. The figure leaned down and kissed my left cheek. Then I woke up. There was a mark on my cheek where the figure had kissed me in the dream and it burned like hell. (I’ll try and find a picture but I don’t remember if I took one) I told my friend about this when it happened and I shit you not he goes “Bro, I think you met death.” The third and most recent dream happens on April 4th. I was at a Christmas party with my family and I’m the midst of playing hide and seek. I found an old board game in my grandpas room. My grandpa then found me and begged me not to open it, and then he died (in the dream). I didn’t get the chance to open it but then we were board at the Christmas party again so I was looking in the hall closet again for a game for us to play. I found the same game but the box was different, it was light pink and had peppermints on the cover with a little gingerbread man mid run with the words “run-run man” written on it with red twizzlers. Lydia (my sister) immediately took interest and tried to grab the game from me I pushed her away and started to read the back. (I don’t remember exactly what the back said) On the back there were warnings about the game, there were also “reviews” from people who had played the game, they’re were the pictures and ages of the players, a 4 year old, an 8 year old, a 16 year old, two 20 year olds, and all of them said “do not play this game”. I held onto the box so no one could open it, I then went to a different closet to look for a different game for us to play. There I found another box with similar packaging, but it was a doll box so it had the clear plastic on it, I can’t remember what the doll looked like. My family then sat around the tree so the younger kids could open gifts. My brother got his first, he opened it and it was the game, then my sister opened hers it was the doll, I wasn’t holding them anymore, and then I woke up. I told some of my witchy friends about this and they think I have a dream demon attached to me, so if anyone has any advice for that please let me know! This is the end of the dreams that I can remember. Bringing the mask up again, I was walking out at the Lake in my town recently with some friends to clean up trash. We try and do this once a month. On this specific day we were cleaning in a heavily wooded area. We were pretty far into the woods, but could still see the road at this point, when one of the guys picks up a red demon mask that matched the one the members of the “cult” in my dream were wearing(I’ll try and attach a picture). I also said earlier that my sister had an experience too, this is not Lydia but the sister who shares a room with her. She was laying facing her wall one night when she suddenly felt weight on the end of her bed. She thought it was Lydia so she turned to tell her to get off her bed. When she turned however, there was no one there and Lydia was asleep in her bed on the other side of the room. And that’s it, I’ll update again if anything happens.
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